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Sunset at DoubleM Systems (DBLM.com), Del Mar, California

Friday, October 16, 2026

#CRM: How big is it?


How the $95 idea became more than $1 trillion

No research organization has tracked the CRM industry continuously under one unchanging definition from 1985 to the present. The cumulative figure therefore has to be reconstructed from published historical market estimates and interpolations between them.

The important benchmarks include approximately $1.2 billion in worldwide CRM revenue in 1997, $2.3 billion in 1998, $8.1 billion in 2007, $18.1 billion in 2012, $26.3 billion in 2015, $39.5 billion in 2017, $48.2 billion in 2018, $107.5 billion in 2023, and $128 billion in 2024. CFO Business Standard

Using those benchmarks, filling in the missing years, and extending the recent growth trajectory through October 2026 produces this approximate reconstruction:

PeriodEstimated worldwide CRM software sales
1985–1995$2 billion
1996–2005$41 billion
2006–2015$150 billion
2016–2020$250 billion
2021–October 2026$690 billion
Estimated total since 1985About $1.1 trillion

These are not audited totals. The early years are particularly difficult to measure because the category was still being called contact management, sales-force automation, telemarketing software, customer support software, and several other names.

But the broad conclusion is difficult to dispute:

More than $1 trillion of CRM software alone has probably been sold since the first $95 copy of TeleMagic.

That software-only estimate is enough to support the headline.

It does not include most of the surrounding economic activity: implementation, customization, systems integration, training, consulting, data conversion, continuing support, managed services, and the work of thousands of smaller value-added resellers and independent specialists.

Including those direct CRM services raises the estimated cumulative worldwide total to approximately $1.5–$1.7 trillion.

The acceleration is the most remarkable part of the story.

During the first decade, cumulative sales were measured in the low billions.

During the second decade, they were measured in tens of billions.

Then came hundreds of billions.


Today, CRM software alone is plausibly a $165–$170 billion annual global market, based on the $128 billion market measured in 2024 and the category’s recent growth. Adding implementation, consulting, integration, training, and related services brings the current software-and-services economy to roughly $200–$225 billion a year. Gartner

The ecosystem includes giant public corporations, private software companies, small developers, value-added resellers, implementation partners, consultants, trainers, integrators, and countless specialist businesses whose names will never appear in an industry report.

Estimating what all those businesses are worth is even more difficult than estimating historical sales.

Public companies have market capitalizations. Private companies, consulting firms, and small independent businesses do not. Their values must be estimated from revenue, profit, growth, recurring income, and comparable transactions.

A rough model places the combined present business value attributable to the worldwide CRM ecosystem at approximately $750 billion, with a reasonable range of roughly $650–$850 billion.

That is not a strict “market capitalization” figure. It combines public-market value with estimated private-company and small-business enterprise value. Salesforce alone was valued at roughly $194 billion in October 2026, before considering HubSpot, the CRM portions of Microsoft, Oracle, SAP, Adobe and ServiceNow, hundreds of private software vendors, and the global services and reseller community. StockAnalysis.com

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OK, that's the short story, excerpted from a longer story my AI put together from what it knows about my history and the history of #CRM generally.  What follows is that longer story about how I got into, and out of, the industry:

From $95 to More Than $1 Trillion in Global Sales

The world had needed it all along.

It took one programmer-salesman-entrepreneur, unemployed and recovering from bankruptcy, to see the solution—and set an industry in motion.

In 1983, Michael McCafferty was starting over from nothing.

A business failure had cost him his company, exhausted his credit, and forced him into personal bankruptcy. There was no investment capital, no prestigious position waiting, and no obvious path back. He had no savings, no car, and no reliable source of income.

What remained were the skills he had accumulated during an unconventional career.

He knew how to sell. As a former IBM sales representative, he understood the daily realities of finding prospects, remembering conversations, keeping promises, scheduling follow-ups, writing letters, preparing reports, and moving opportunities toward a decision.

He knew how to program. He could sit down at a computer and turn an idea into working software.

And he was an entrepreneur. He understood that a good product was not enough. It had to solve an important problem, be priced properly, reach customers, and eventually become a business.

While recovering from bankruptcy, Michael supported himself as an independent computer consultant—a hired-gun software specialist and, as he described himself, a “technology advisor to management.”

Companies hired him to solve practical business problems with the emerging generation of personal computers. He worked with databases, accounting systems, communications software, customer information, sales analysis, and custom programs.

Consulting paid the bills, but it had one serious limitation: he was still selling his time.

Every dollar depended upon another hour of work. There was no leverage, no continuity, and no equity. If he stopped working, the income stopped.

He needed a product. Michael McCafferty

At the same time, he kept encountering the same problem inside businesses.

Their most valuable information—their customers, prospects, conversations, promises, appointments, opportunities, and follow-up commitments—was scattered everywhere.

Some of it was in Rolodexes. Some was in notebooks, calendars, file folders, card boxes, and accounting systems. Much of it existed only in the memories of individual salespeople.

A salesperson might know that a prospect should be called next Tuesday, that a customer had mentioned a problem three months earlier, or that a proposal needed one final change.

But the business itself did not know.

When the salesperson forgot, became overwhelmed, or left the company, the information disappeared.

The personal computer had arrived, but no general-purpose software existed that could serve as the working memory of a company’s relationships with its customers.

The world had needed that software all along.

It took one programmer-salesman-entrepreneur to see it.

A programmer alone might have understood what the computer could do but not what a salesperson actually needed.

A salesperson might have recognized the problem but lacked the ability to create the solution.

A business owner might have seen the commercial opportunity but lacked both the selling experience and the programming skill.

Michael possessed all three perspectives.

His idea was to create one place where a business could maintain every customer and prospect, record every important conversation, schedule every follow-up, organize every sales opportunity, produce management information, and preserve the institutional memory that had previously existed only in fragments.

It would not be merely an electronic address book.

It would help a company manage the entire continuing relationship between the business and its customers.

The term customer relationship management did not exist yet.

But the idea did.

In early 1985, Michael began writing the program himself, often after finishing his consulting work for the day—late at night and on weekends.

There was no development team.

There was no venture capital.

There was no market-research department.

There was no established software category to enter.

There was one man, one computer, and a conviction that the software needed to exist.

He called it TeleMagic.

The first commercial copy sold for $95.

That first sale did not prove that a large market existed. It did not create an industry overnight.

But it established one essential fact:

Someone would pay for the idea.

Then someone else did.

Customers discovered that TeleMagic helped them remember more, follow up more consistently, manage prospects more intelligently, and serve existing customers better.

Dealers began recommending it. Consultants installed it, customized it, trained users, and created specialized additions for particular industries.

Those dealers and consultants became businesses themselves.

The original $95 price increased as the program became more capable. Individual copies eventually sold for hundreds of dollars. Network installations sold for thousands. Corporate licenses could exceed $100,000.

An international distribution system developed. Resellers, value-added resellers, trainers, programmers, consultants, and integration specialists built businesses around the product and the new category it represented.

The category eventually acquired several names.

First came contact management.

Then sales-force automation.

Finally, the broader concept became known as customer relationship management—CRM.

TeleMagic was the first CRM. Michael McCafferty

Michael built Remote Control International around the product. The company grew rapidly and appeared on the Inc. 500 list in both 1991 and 1992.

Then, on October 2, 1992, The Sage Group acquired the company.

Michael sold it, quit the business, and never looked back.

He did not remain in the CRM industry as an executive, consultant, commentator, or elder statesman.

He had taken the idea from nothing to a successful international software business. He had created the product, demonstrated the need, found the customers, developed a distribution system, and given the new industry substantial momentum.

Then he left it to everyone else. Michael McCafferty

Thousands of entrepreneurs, programmers, investors, software companies, resellers, consultants, and customers carried the concept forward.

CRM expanded far beyond its beginnings in sales and contact management. It came to encompass marketing automation, customer service, call centers, digital commerce, analytics, mobile computing, cloud software, customer-data platforms, artificial intelligence, and nearly every other system through which a business understands and serves its customers.

Michael had started the motion.

The industry continued without him.

How the $95 idea became more than $1 trillion

No research organization has tracked the CRM industry continuously under one unchanging definition from 1985 to the present. The cumulative figure therefore has to be reconstructed from published historical market estimates and interpolations between them.

The important benchmarks include approximately $1.2 billion in worldwide CRM revenue in 1997, $2.3 billion in 1998, $8.1 billion in 2007, $18.1 billion in 2012, $26.3 billion in 2015, $39.5 billion in 2017, $48.2 billion in 2018, $107.5 billion in 2023, and $128 billion in 2024. CFO Business Standard

Using those benchmarks, filling in the missing years, and extending the recent growth trajectory through October 2026 produces this approximate reconstruction:

PeriodEstimated worldwide CRM software sales
1985–1995$2 billion
1996–2005$41 billion
2006–2015$150 billion
2016–2020$250 billion
2021–October 2026$690 billion
Estimated total since 1985About $1.1 trillion

These are not audited totals. The early years are particularly difficult to measure because the category was still being called contact management, sales-force automation, telemarketing software, customer support software, and several other names.

But the broad conclusion is difficult to dispute:

More than $1 trillion of CRM software alone has probably been sold since the first $95 copy of TeleMagic.

That software-only estimate is enough to support the headline.

It does not include most of the surrounding economic activity: implementation, customization, systems integration, training, consulting, data conversion, continuing support, managed services, and the work of thousands of smaller value-added resellers and independent specialists.

Including those direct CRM services raises the estimated cumulative worldwide total to approximately $1.5–$1.7 trillion.

The acceleration is the most remarkable part of the story.

During the first decade, cumulative sales were measured in the low billions.

During the second decade, they were measured in tens of billions.

Then came hundreds of billions.

Most of the estimated trillion dollars in CRM software sales occurred during the years after Michael had already left the industry.

Today, CRM software alone is plausibly a $165–$170 billion annual global market, based on the $128 billion market measured in 2024 and the category’s recent growth. Adding implementation, consulting, integration, training, and related services brings the current software-and-services economy to roughly $200–$225 billion a year. Gartner

The ecosystem includes giant public corporations, private software companies, small developers, value-added resellers, implementation partners, consultants, trainers, integrators, and countless specialist businesses whose names will never appear in an industry report.

Estimating what all those businesses are worth is even more difficult than estimating historical sales.

Public companies have market capitalizations. Private companies, consulting firms, and small independent businesses do not. Their values must be estimated from revenue, profit, growth, recurring income, and comparable transactions.

A rough model places the combined present business value attributable to the worldwide CRM ecosystem at approximately $750 billion, with a reasonable range of roughly $650–$850 billion.

That is not a strict “market capitalization” figure. It combines public-market value with estimated private-company and small-business enterprise value. Salesforce alone was valued at roughly $194 billion in October 2026, before considering HubSpot, the CRM portions of Microsoft, Oracle, SAP, Adobe and ServiceNow, hundreds of private software vendors, and the global services and reseller community. StockAnalysis.com

Those figures do not represent TeleMagic’s sales, nor do they suggest that Michael personally built everything CRM eventually became.

He left in 1992, near the beginning of the story.

What he did was see the need before the world had a name for it.

He combined the experience of a salesperson, the skill of a programmer, and the instincts of an entrepreneur.

He created the first working product, found the first customers, built the first distribution system, and demonstrated that customer relationships could—and should—be managed by software.

Then he quit the business and never looked back.

And while the industry continued growing without him, Michael went in an entirely different direction.

The years after bankruptcy had been about survival: consulting assignments, long hours, limited money, and the risk of building a product for a market that did not yet exist.

The years after the sale provided the counterpoint.

He went flying in an open-cockpit biplane.

There were Ferraris, fantasy homes, travel, and parties.

He exchanged the uncertainty of bankruptcy and the relentless demands of building a company for adventures that had once seemed impossible.

The biplane became more than a possession. It became a second life. Michael spent seven years as an adventure aviator, flying the aircraft whose image had helped sustain him during the difficult years when he was programming TeleMagic.

The Ferraris and fantasy homes were not merely displays of wealth. They were physical proof of the distance traveled—from sleeping on a used mattress after bankruptcy to having the freedom to pursue experiences he had once only imagined. Michael McCafferty

He had created the first CRM, sold the company, and walked away.

Meanwhile, the $95 idea kept growing.

Today, Michael lives largely in obscurity in the little seaside town of Del Mar, California.

But he has not stopped creating.

At 84 years old, he is still writing software—currently developing ToBeWise™, an app designed to bring the timeless insights of history’s greatest thinkers and achievers to the decisions people face today.

He also mentors startup entrepreneurs, passing along lessons learned from failure, bankruptcy, invention, rapid growth, acquisition—and from recognizing an important idea before anyone else sees what it might become. Michael McCafferty

More than four decades after he sat down to program TeleMagic, he is still doing essentially the same thing:

Looking for something the world needs.

And building it.


(end of the AI story)


Wednesday, October 7, 2026

Where do new ToBeWise™ insights come from?


This morning, I added a batch of about 150-ish insights to the online database that I had been saving over the last 6 months.  These bits of wisdom were found in my daily reading online, from wisdom accounts on facebook, instagram, and general browsing. Not all get saved, of course.  They must pass my personal filters for sensibility, importance, clarity, positivity, etc. 

My process has been simple, cut the quote from the source, and paste it into a photo in the iOS app Photos, or as a text message to myself.  That saves the moment, but still doesn't make it into the database.  I could go through the entire process for each quote, but it's a lot more efficient to do many at once.

Users can easily see the insights added, in reverse chronological order, by doing a Discover/General Lists/Recently Added. Date and time added are shown as well as the insight.

Once I review each of the insights and assign list names to each, and pull the trigger for the group, the upload to the online database is virtually instant, and these insights are automatically available to users without any work on their part at all.  They just appear. The additions are updated in the background. This works for both iOS devices as well as the new Android version.

After this big batch process, I asked AI to look for these quotes in my Photos and Messages on a daily basis. Wisdom daily! 

Another AI driven daily process is to look for ToBeWise™ oriented blog posts on this DBLM blog and repost on the ToBeWise™ specific blog at tobewise.co website. 


Thursday, October 1, 2026

Android version of ToBeWise™ is now in beta

With a lot of help from GPT6, it seemed too easy to get the iOS version ported to android.  It really looks good on my new Google Mobile device (Samsung Galaxy A17 5G, from Amazon). 

It took me longer to get used to the android operating system and set up a Google Play account than it took GPT6 to convert the code, and that completely floored me.  One thing that made it a lot easier is that the iOS version was written in React Native (a good choice by Griffin a few years back).

Of course there were a good number of minor things in the new android version, but easily fixed. All the database stuff works, and notifications work.  

But it still needs a lot of deep testing and side by side comparisons with the iOS version, and lots more eyeballs (testers) on different screen sizes (iOS handles that automatically, but android not so much).



Monday, September 14, 2026

Siri with AI: not yet

 Just installed Mac OS 27, with upgraded Siri, and was looking for ways to inject new AI features into ToBeWise™ but after looking more thoroughly, it is not to be, yet (but I'm on the waitlist).  So I asked GPT.

it looks like siri with apple intelligence is not yet available, when will it be released?

You’re right, Michael. The new Siri AI is not yet generally available, even though macOS 27 is installed.

Apple has announced only that it will arrive as an English-language beta “later this year”—meaning sometime before the end of 2026. Apple has not given a specific date.

This is the version that adds:

  • Personal-context searches across Mail, Messages, Photos, and Notes
  • Natural back-and-forth conversations
  • Awareness of what is on your screen
  • Actions across apps
  • A dedicated Siri app and conversation history

Apple’s macOS page describes Siri AI as “rolling out in English,” so availability may be phased rather than appearing for everyone simultaneously.

Your M5 MacBook Pro qualifies. Once released, it should arrive through a macOS 27 software update; keep System Settings → General → Software Update enabled.

My earlier description of those features made them sound as though they were already active in the public release. They are announced macOS 27 features, but the new Siri AI itself is still awaiting its public beta rollout.


Tuesday, August 18, 2026

To be Open or Closed, that is the question...

 



what are the pros and cons of making my app ToBeWise™ Open Source?

Michael, open sourcing ToBeWise could be valuable—but I would not open source the entire product. I would separate the software, quotation database, brand, and production infrastructure.

What “open source” would mean

True open source means other people may use, modify, redistribute, and commercially exploit the licensed code. Merely putting the code in a public GitHub repository is not enough; it needs an actual open-source license. Once code is public, existing forks and downloaded copies cannot be recalled simply by making the repository private again.

Pros and cons for ToBeWise

ProsCons
Long-term survival. ToBeWise could continue even if its current developers eventually stop maintaining it.Anyone can create a fork. A developer could adapt the code into another quotations or wisdom app.
More development help. Outside developers could fix bugs, improve accessibility, and contribute Apple-platform features.Help is not guaranteed. You could receive few useful contributions while still managing questions, issues, and pull requests.
Greater credibility. Users can inspect how the app works and verify its privacy architecture.Product strategy becomes visible. Competitors can study the architecture, search implementation, and development direction.
Mission alignment. Making useful wisdom software freely available fits the philosophy of the product.Possible brand confusion. Forks may be mistaken for the official app unless trademark use is tightly controlled.
Developer publicity. The repository could introduce ToBeWise to programmers, founders, educators, and potential collaborators.Security preparation. Every secret, credential, internal endpoint, signing asset, and private data file must be removed first.
Better continuity with Griffin and future contributors. Contributions can be reviewed and preserved in one transparent project.Ownership questions. You must confirm that Double M Systems has the right to license every significant piece of code.
Possible security review. More people can inspect the code and report defects.Public scrutiny. Opening the code can reveal old shortcuts, technical debt, and vulnerabilities before anyone volunteers to fix them.

Open source would not prevent you from keeping an official App Store version, charging for future services, or offering premium content. But a genuine open-source license must also permit others to use the code commercially.

The important ToBeWise distinction

The current App Store description says ToBeWise is free and contains thousands of carefully curated insights across more than 200 topics, along with fully local, offline semantic search. It also states that the app collects no data. That suggests that the principal proprietary value is probably the curated wisdom collection, categorization, brand, and accumulated product judgment—not merely the Swift code.

I would divide it this way:

Make open sourceKeep separate and proprietary
Swift and SwiftUI application frameworkComplete master quotation database
Navigation and user-interface codeProprietary topic assignments and curation judgments
Local favorites and collections architectureProduction synchronization and administrative systems
Notifications and scheduling frameworkPrivate analytics or operational tools
Sharing featuresSigning certificates, API keys, credentials, and configuration
Search interface and generic search engineAny particularly valuable ranking or database-generation process
A small demonstration quotation setToBeWise™ name, logo, icon, and official visual assets

The open repository could include perhaps 50–100 public-domain or clearly usable sample quotations, allowing developers to build and test the app without publishing your complete collection.

The quotation database should have its own legal and licensing treatment. Copyright may protect sufficiently creative selection and arrangement of a database even when individual facts or short phrases are not protected; longer quotations can involve separate rights questions. Do not casually place the entire database under the software license.

Best license choices

MPL 2.0 — my preferred choice

The Mozilla Public License is a moderate form of “copyleft.” Someone who modifies an MPL-licensed source file generally must make that modified file available under the same license, while separate additions and larger works can remain proprietary. It also expressly excludes rights to the project’s trademarks.

This provides some protection against a company taking ToBeWise, improving the existing code, and keeping all those improvements private.

Apache 2.0 — easiest for broad adoption

Apache 2.0 allows commercial use, modification, redistribution, and closed-source derivatives. It includes an explicit patent grant and does not grant trademark rights. It is attractive when maximizing reuse and contributions matters more than receiving improvements back.

MIT — simplest

MIT is short and easily understood. It allows nearly unrestricted reuse, including commercial and closed-source reuse, provided the copyright and license notice remains.

When not to call it open source

If your position is:

“People may inspect and improve the code, but they may not create commercial competitors,”

then you want a source-available license, not an open-source license. All OSI-defined open-source software must permit commercial use.

Before publishing anything

First confirm who owns the source code written by you, Griffin, contractors, and any previous developers. Copyright initially belongs to the creator unless the work qualifies as work made for hire or the rights were transferred in writing. Paying someone to develop code does not, by itself, necessarily establish ownership of all copyright.

Then:

  1. Audit every dependency and its license.
  2. Remove the production quotation database, user information, credentials, certificates, tokens, and private endpoints.
  3. Create separate LICENSE, CONTENT_LICENSE, TRADEMARK, CONTRIBUTING, and SECURITY files.
  4. State that ToBeWise™ and its logo may identify only the official Double M Systems release.
  5. Require review before outside code is incorporated into the official App Store version.
  6. Decide whether contributions use the ordinary project license or a contributor agreement. Most small projects do not need a separate CLA, although one may be useful if future relicensing is important.

Apple would continue reviewing your official App Store release in the usual manner; publishing the source does not remove your responsibility for the safety, operation, content, and legal compliance of the distributed app.

My opinion

I would use a selective open-source model:

Open-source the Apple client code under MPL 2.0, include a small sample database, and retain the full quotation collection, ToBeWise™ brand, production infrastructure, and official App Store distribution under Double M Systems.

That captures the strongest benefits—legacy, transparency, collaboration, and mission—without giving away the most distinctive asset.

Because ToBeWise is currently free, there is relatively little immediate revenue to protect. The larger concern is preserving the integrity of the collection and the brand. Open more later if the community proves valuable. The reverse decision is much harder because publicly released copies cannot be withdrawn.


why not open source the quote database as well? I'm thinking about open source so that it can be translated into foreign languages, and for an android version etc. and these would need the databases of quotes and authors.

I actually think that's a much stronger argument, Michael.

When I answered before, I was thinking like a software company protecting its intellectual property. But ToBeWise is not really a software business. It's much closer to a knowledge commons or a long-term cultural project.

If your primary objective is:

"I want ToBeWise to outlive me and become the world's best curated collection of wisdom, in every language."

...then I'd seriously consider open sourcing both the code and the database.

The advantages become much larger

1. Translation

This is the biggest one.

Instead of you trying to create:

  • English
  • Spanish
  • French
  • German
  • Portuguese
  • Japanese
  • Korean
  • Chinese
  • Hindi
  • Arabic

...volunteers from each language community could do it.

A native speaker can almost always produce a better translation than a machine, especially for quotations.

Imagine:

ToBeWise Español

maintained by Spaniards and Latin Americans.

Or

ToBeWise 日本語

maintained by Japanese users.

That becomes possible.


2. Crowdsourced curation

Today you curate.

Tomorrow:

  • people submit quotes
  • others review
  • others improve categories
  • historians correct dates
  • scholars improve attribution
  • philosophers debate categorization

Wikipedia became enormous because of this model.


3. Android

Someone who loves Android could simply build

ToBeWise Android

without waiting for Griffin.

You would still maintain the "official" version.


4. New platforms

People might build

  • Linux
  • Windows
  • Web
  • Vision Pro
  • Kindle
  • eInk readers
  • Raspberry Pi
  • Home Assistant

...

without you ever asking.


5. AI

This may be the biggest opportunity.

Imagine AI researchers using ToBeWise as

"the world's highest-quality structured wisdom corpus."

Instead of training on random internet quotes,

they train on yours.

That could dramatically increase ToBeWise's influence.


But...

I would separate the data from the software.

The software is easy.

The database is where things get interesting.

I'd structure it something like this:

Quotes
Authors
Topics
Tags
Cross references
Translations
Sources
Notes

GitHub is actually very good at collaborative editing of structured data.

People submit pull requests.

Editors approve them.

Exactly like Wikipedia.


I would still protect one thing

Not the data.

The brand.

Specifically:

  • ToBeWise™
  • logo
  • icon
  • App Store listing

Anyone could create

WisdomDB

using the database.

But they couldn't call it

ToBeWise™

unless you approved it.

That's exactly how Mozilla works.

Anyone can fork Firefox.

Only Mozilla ships Firefox.


The philosophy

This is where I think ToBeWise is unusual.

Most open source projects say

"Here's our software."

ToBeWise could say

"Here's humanity's accumulated wisdom."

That's a completely different mission.


One concern

The only thing I'd think carefully about is quality.

Today, if someone submits:

"Live Laugh Love"

— Socrates

...you simply reject it.

Once hundreds of people contribute,

you need editorial governance.

Wikipedia has administrators.

Linux has maintainers.

Python has core developers.

You'd eventually need something similar.


My opinion

I think you're asking the wrong question.

The question isn't:

"Should ToBeWise be open source?"

It's:

"Should ToBeWise become the Wikipedia of wisdom?"

If the answer is yes, then I would absolutely open-source the database.

In fact, I think the database is potentially far more valuable than the software. SwiftUI will be obsolete in twenty years. Android, web frameworks, and AI interfaces will all evolve. But a carefully curated, multilingual, community-maintained collection of humanity's best ideas could still be growing a century from now.

That strikes me as being very much in line with what you've always said your goal is: to create something that helps people make better decisions, long after you're gone.

I cut you off to get a quick answer, but now i'd appreciate you taking the time and give me your best answer.

Michael, after considering your actual objective, I would open the quotation database as well.

My earlier caution assumed the main objective was protecting ToBeWise as proprietary intellectual property. But your objective appears broader:

Make ToBeWise available across platforms, languages, cultures, and generations.

For that objective, keeping the database closed would work against the mission. Open-source code without the quotations would give developers an empty container. The database is the enduring asset.

Strictly speaking, the software would be open source, while the quotation collection would be open data/open content. Open licenses allow modification, redistribution, and commercial use; that freedom is what permits independent Android apps, translations, educational projects, and other implementations.

The strategic model

ToBeWise should become two related things:

  1. The ToBeWise Open Wisdom Database
    A platform-neutral, multilingual collection of quotations, authors, topics, sources, translations, and editorial information.
  2. The official ToBeWise applications
    The iPhone, iPad, Mac, Watch, Android, web, and future versions approved and maintained under the ToBeWise name.

That distinction is important:

The apps are clients. The database is the institution.

An Android developer should be able to build a client without reverse-engineering the iPhone app. A Spanish-language editor should be able to translate the database without knowing Swift. An educator should be able to create a specialized collection without changing your official product.

The real reason for caution

The main obstacle is not competitors copying the database. It is that the database contains several different kinds of intellectual property, and you cannot apply one blanket license to everything.

Database componentRights situation
Author names, dates, nationalities and basic factsUsually factual information
Your topic classifications, selection and organizationPotentially your compilation authorship
Your annotations, descriptions and editorial notesOriginal ToBeWise content
Ancient or public-domain quotationsGenerally unrestricted, although a modern translation may still be protected
Very short phrasesOften not copyrightable in the United States
Longer quotations from modern authorsMay remain copyrighted
Community-created translationsMay be separately copyrightable
Existing published translationsMay belong to the translator or publisher
Logo, icon and ToBeWise™ nameTrademark and brand rights

The U.S. Copyright Office says names and short phrases are generally not protected by copyright, while sufficiently creative selection and arrangement of database material can be protected. It also defines a translation as a derivative work.

That translation issue is particularly important. Even when the original quotation is public domain, a modern published translation may not be. And when the original quotation is still copyrighted, making a new translation can require authorization from the original rights holder.

Also, even where displaying a quotation in your own app might qualify as fair use, that does not necessarily give you the ability to grant everyone else an open license to that quotation. Creative Commons explicitly cautions that a license applies only to rights the licensor owns or is authorized to license.

This does not mean the database should remain closed. It means every record should carry its own rights information.

My recommended licensing structure

1. Database: Open Database License 1.0

I would seriously consider placing the database structure, selection, relationships, IDs, and ToBeWise-created metadata under the Open Database License—ODbL 1.0.

ODbL permits anyone to:

  • Copy and distribute the database
  • Build apps using it
  • Modify and translate it
  • Use it commercially

But an adapted database that is publicly used must also be made available under ODbL. That means someone who creates a Spanish, German, or Japanese version would generally have to make that improved database available rather than taking the English collection, adding translations, and permanently closing the result. ODbL also permits distribution through systems employing technological restrictions when an unrestricted version is made available separately—useful when distributing through app stores.

That reciprocity is why I prefer ODbL for your purpose.

2. ToBeWise-created translations and editorial writing: CC BY 4.0

Your original annotations, biographies, summaries, explanations, and project-created translations could be licensed separately under Creative Commons Attribution 4.0.

CC BY permits sharing, translation, adaptation, and commercial use while requiring appropriate credit.

A stronger alternative is CC BY-SA 4.0, which requires adaptations to remain under the same license. However, that adds compliance complexity and can create questions when content is distributed through platforms employing digital restrictions.

3. Public-domain quotations: mark them as public domain

Do not claim a Creative Commons license over material already in the public domain. Mark it as public domain and separately license only the ToBeWise-created selection, metadata, annotation, or translation. Creative Commons expressly recommends this distinction.

4. Modern or uncertain quotations: record-by-record treatment

Each quote should be marked as something like:

  • Public domain
  • Permission obtained
  • Submitted by author under an open license
  • Existing Creative Commons license
  • Short phrase/no copyright claim
  • Rights review required
  • Excluded from open distribution

This is the one situation in which provenance becomes essential. It is not academic fussiness; it is the permission map that tells Android developers, translators, publishers, and educators what they may safely reuse.

5. Brand: retain complete control

The open licenses should explicitly exclude:

  • ToBeWise™
  • The app icon
  • Logos
  • Official product-page graphics
  • Any representation that a fork is the official application

Creative Commons licenses do not license trademark rights, and CC recommends a separate trademark policy.

A developer could create an app using the database, but could not represent it as the official ToBeWise application without permission. You could permit language such as:

Powered by the ToBeWise Open Wisdom Database

while reserving:

Official ToBeWise™

How the multilingual database should work

Do not make the existing iOS database file the public standard. It is probably too closely coupled to Apple technologies.

Use a platform-neutral source format, with generated SQLite databases for the apps. Every quotation should have a permanent identifier that does not change when it is translated.

A record should include at least:

FieldPurpose
Quote IDPermanent identity across every platform
Author IDLinks variants of the author’s name
Original textQuotation in its original language, where available
Original languageLanguage code
Source workBook, speech, letter, interview or other origin
Source locatorPage, chapter, date or other reference
Translation textOne or more translations
TranslatorPerson or published translation used
Translation statusDraft, reviewed or approved
RegionSpanish-Spain, Spanish-Mexico, Portuguese-Brazil, etc.
Topics and tagsYour existing ToBeWise organization
Rights statusPublic domain, licensed, permissioned or under review
Content licenseLicense applying to that specific text
Review historyWho approved or corrected it

There should be one canonical quotation record with multiple translations attached to it, rather than creating unrelated copies of the quotation for every language.

Several translations may be valid. The system should allow multiple approved translations when wording, rhythm or cultural context differs.

Machine translation can produce a useful first draft, but a native speaker should approve anything identified as an official translation. Quotations are unusually sensitive to small wording changes: a technically accurate translation can still lose the insight, humor, elegance or force of the original.

It should become multicultural, not merely translated

There is a larger opportunity here.

A worldwide ToBeWise should not be only:

English-language and Western quotations translated into other languages.

Language communities should also contribute the wisdom of their own cultures:

  • Chinese thinkers in the original Chinese
  • Indian philosophers in Sanskrit, Hindi and regional languages
  • Japanese writers in Japanese
  • Arabic scholars in Arabic
  • African proverbs in their source languages
  • Latin American writers in Spanish and Portuguese

English then becomes one translation among many—not necessarily the master version.

That would transform ToBeWise from a translated American app into a genuinely international wisdom project.

Open does not mean uncontrolled

Anyone should be able to propose a contribution. That does not mean anyone can alter the official database.

I would establish:

  • An editor-in-chief or editorial committee
  • Technical database maintainers
  • A lead editor for each language
  • A written quotation-selection policy
  • A written attribution and sourcing standard
  • Two-person review for translations
  • A correction and dispute process
  • Versioned official releases
  • A contributor agreement affirming that the contributor has the necessary rights

The official database could contain statuses such as:

Submitted → Verified → Translated → Language-reviewed → Approved

The public repository would show the history of every correction. That gives ToBeWise something it currently cannot easily provide: an auditable editorial record.

What you would be giving up

Opening the database means accepting several consequences:

  • Someone may create a competing or paid wisdom app.
  • Someone may build an AI product using the corpus.
  • Someone may create a fork you dislike.
  • Some contributors may demand time without providing much useful work.
  • Disagreements may arise over translation, attribution, ideology and inclusion.
  • Once a version is released under an open license, existing recipients generally retain those rights; you can change the terms for future releases, but cannot call back the copies already released.

The answer is not to prohibit these uses. It is to make the official ToBeWise version visibly better, more trusted, more carefully reviewed and more current than the forks.

Your strongest protection would be reputation and editorial authority—not secrecy.

A practical rollout

I would not release the entire existing database tomorrow.

Phase 1: Prepare

  • Confirm ownership of the database structure, annotations and contributed material.
  • Add stable quote and author IDs.
  • Add rights-status and source fields.
  • Separate the brand assets from the data.
  • Choose the software, database and content licenses with counsel.

Phase 2: Publish a rights-cleared initial corpus

Release perhaps 500–1,000 of the strongest, cleanest quotations:

  • Public-domain quotations
  • Clearly unprotected short phrases
  • Quotations for which permission exists
  • Fully documented authors and sources

Also publish the schema, contribution guide and database-generation tools.

Phase 3: Translation pilot

Select one language—Spanish would be a logical first pilot—and recruit:

  • One language lead
  • Several native-speaker reviewers
  • One technical contributor
  • One Android developer

The pilot should test the entire process, not merely produce translated text.

Phase 4: Expand

After the workflow works:

  • Release additional languages
  • Invite authors to license selected quotations directly
  • Create an Android reference application
  • Establish an international editorial council
  • Publish regular signed database releases

My opinion

I now think opening the database is more important than opening the iOS code.

Mobile frameworks will be replaced. Apple and Android interfaces will change. Today’s code will eventually become obsolete.

A rigorously curated, multilingual, open collection of humanity’s best practical wisdom could continue improving indefinitely.

My recommendation is:

Open the ToBeWise database under a database-specific share-alike license; license ToBeWise-created translations and annotations openly; mark each quotation’s individual rights status; retain exclusive control of the ToBeWise™ brand; and maintain a rigorously reviewed official edition.

That would reposition ToBeWise from being primarily an app into becoming an open global infrastructure for wisdom.